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[Tim Watts]

just an update from last night...

went had a look at the shaft i think it could well be the manway. its definitely got 'ways' down for small animals, moths etc like we saw at the bottom. It feels like its got an old wooden platform about 1.5m down under the bits of old tube and branches and leaves. it would need a few hours to clear it and as we'd have to lift most of the crap out (old galvanised 2" steel tubes and an old kitchen oven) it would be fairly obvious as its local to the track. Someone is in the process of logging up the fallen tree (half removed since last week). It would make sense to leave it a few weeks until they've finished playing with the tree and then start having a bit of a poke to confirm things.

One things for sure when i wacked down a 2m lenth of the steel tubing, it went straight through the crap until it hit what felt like old rotten timbers with a thump which echo'd with the sound of a open shaft below it.

expected depth of shaft down to workings is around 50-60 meters.

[Anthony Britner]

 
We went to "thursday shaft" and the shaft names after yourself is of course, there too. but what about the "unexplored?" shaft? has that one been looked at?

[mick murphy]

good hit but throw caution to the wind after my episode with shafts you will need a couple of tin sheets and some scaff  tube , the wood belongs to the woodland trust and the public have access and as there has been more lost dogs down shafts in this hamlet than any were else so caution at the end of the day.

[Anthony Britner]

The wood with Tims, and thursday shaft is not woodland trust but private. I have landowner details and so does Tim now.

[Doug Thompson]

[quote="Ant89" post=24611]The wood with Tims, and thursday shaft is not woodland trust but private. I have landowner details and so does Tim now.[/quote]

Is it Mr Haq

[Anthony Britner]

It is Doug

[mick murphy]

Leave MR Haq to me,as Doug will tell you he allowed gcc a 1 off on gb shaft so I will need to throw caution
to the wind but as I am the only one who has visited  him a few times I should be able to iron this one out,
but be warned he will want assurance that if he lets us dig it out he will want it capped because as it stands its not been interfered with since it was left over 100 years ago. once we start digging it he becomes liable if he has given his permission, so take this on board if we take this project on capped with
a lid if its a goer or complete cap if not.
I will wait for the clubs feedback before I make my visit.
                                                               mick

[Tim Watts]

Murph.

I would suggest that we don't ask for his permission as such. If he says 'yes i give you permission' then he is liable. He knows this and its what his solicitor told him last time when you went down the shaft on the new workings.

Better would be an approach of... we'd like to have a look at a shaft, we believe its open under a rotten old wooden platform and likely to give way soon anyway (we've looked up it from the bottom). If we went in there we'd ensure we leave it safer than it is now. We know you might not want to give us permission as such (for reasons of accepted liability) but if we were to have a look at it would you be happy to turn a blind eye?

Also offer him a copy of all the photos we took in the GB workings we've been into and a copy of the plans/surveys we've explored up to now etc.

[Tim Watts]

its the third shaft counting from the right on this elevation, Shown as Engine Shaft. The manway or 'thursday shaft' in to the right of it and and tims shaft on the far right. That area of land we were looking into as we walked to the car (on the left of the track) was of course the siting of the old engine house etc - we saw evidence of the buildings etc.

needs looking at too.

and there are shafts further west on the same line too.

the cross cut (between the footway and the engine shaft is as far as we've got underground (coming from the east heading west). at this cross cut there has been a collapse that can probably be dug.

(obviously if you want the full sized version of this plan download it from the library on here).