Helmets

[mike leahy]

personally the longer wet socks are the besr as when you are in water its usually over your wellies so the calf of your leg is kept warmer

[mick murphy]

A warning john these have been tried before and thrown out think beyond the box if you should ever have the need to disingage your belt ie
could be tangled up etc,  you just undo it but if its sawn into your suit you are in trouble.
                                        mick

[mike leahy]

[quote="JohnNicholson" post=12099]Gosh Sweetie - you have now spilled all your secrets.

You must have done a lot of research to optimise your budget caving kit.

Having bitten the bullet and bought a proper suit I must say that they do give me a lot of extra confidence, because they seem to help me slide through tight holes and make a lovely noise whilst slipping. It is sort of saying 'you are making progress'.

I do think the design could be improved, I find them a bit tight across the chest and I would like to experiment with fitting a belt inside the suit with reinforced holes each side of the Zip, to take a 'D' ring for use as a belay point.  Does anyone in the club have a powerful sewing machine?[/quote]

the thing with beaver caving suits john is that there a bit basic
if you want comfort try a warmbac or adventure verticale.
 bad idea about sewing a belt in, you might get pulled of a cliff( and i don't mean richards either     )

[John Nicholson]

I got some neoprene socks from Army Navy stores in Bangor High Street.

[mike leahy]

[quote="JohnNicholson" post=12141]I got some neoprene socks from Army Navy stores in Bangor High Street.[/quote]
bargain i luv a mooch in that place

[Tony Salusbury]

I've been looking at helmets. Is it worth getting a helmet with vents in it? Does having vents make much or a difference re heating/cooling or is it a bit of a gimmick?

[mike leahy]

its a personal thing, some petzl lids have vents in them. look on e-bay under caving or mountaineering
 your more than welcome to use the club lids until you find some(thats what there there for) at the right price

[Ali Wiseman]

It makes a huge difference. I went from an unvented (I got a really sweaty head when exerting myself), to a lightly vented Edelrid, which means I only get a sweaty head when really pushing it. I suspect something with even more vents than mine, which is not really *that* well ventilated, would make the same difference again.

[mike leahy]

[quote="NewStuff" post=14994]It makes a huge difference. I went from an unvented (I got a really sweaty head when exerting myself), to a lightly vented Edelrid, which means I only get a sweaty head when really pushing it. I suspect something with even more vents than mine, which is not really *that* well ventilated, would make the same difference again.[/quote]

 ye but your BIG tart ali
 you brake into a sweat just thinking about it( whatever IT  is)      

[Tony Salusbury]

Thanks for that. There's a Ecrin Roc ending in just under an hour on eBay or I'm looking at the Vertex Vent's.

[Iestyn Rhys Pritchard]

Avoid anything with polystyrene! My helmet's 'orrible  :angry:

[mike leahy]

[quote="WelshSossy" post=14997]Thanks for that. There's a Ecrin Roc ending in just under an hour on eBay or I'm looking at the Vertex Vent's.[/quote]

 the good thing about these ecrin's are the wheel adjusters on the inside, and "he" is offering some exta foam inserts which might come in handy, seeing as you are buying for 3 different head sizes

[Tony Salusbury]

I've ordered the girls some Elia's as I think they may be more comfortable for them (re ponytails), so just gotta get one for me now.

[mike leahy]

go for it

[mike leahy]

well !!!!!!!!!! did you get it. if not there are a few more on there for bid