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Non Caving Related => Climbing => Topic started by: Tony Salusbury on May 19, 2013, 11:40 PM

Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Tony Salusbury on May 19, 2013, 11:40 PM
Great day out with Mike and Guy scrambling up Glyder Fach, then walking up Glyder Fawr and Y Garn. Here's some piccies coz Captain isnt on FaceyBook.


Title: Scramblin and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Tony Salusbury on May 19, 2013, 11:47 PM
Big thanks to Mike and Guy for a great day. Fantastic weather and not too many people up there either. Result!
Title: Scramblin and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: John Nicholson on May 20, 2013, 08:34 AM
I live minutes from this area, so it is my favourite area of mountainside.  Which way did you ascend? Gribbin Ridge?
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Tony Salusbury on May 20, 2013, 08:52 AM
We scrambled up Dolmen Ridge in the first photo John.
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: John Nicholson on May 20, 2013, 09:20 AM
There is a cave marked on the north face of Gallt y Ogof ridge.  Has anyone explored it?
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: mike leahy on May 20, 2013, 05:51 PM
you could of at least "air brushed" my monkey's arse out :(  :( .
 crackin day out and fantastic weather :)  :)
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Ian A on May 20, 2013, 08:33 PM
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=17759]There is a cave marked on the north face of Gallt y Ogof ridge.  Has anyone explored it?[/quote]

It is hideously difficult to get to .. I have tried but not managed to get at it. I am 90% sure it is nothing more than a large grotto though ....

Ian
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: John Nicholson on May 20, 2013, 08:39 PM
Is it difficult to get to bcause the entrance is so small, or because it is up a steep incline?
I assume it is man made because there is no limestone in that area, but who would build a cave there?
I can't see any obvious signs of an addit.
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Ali Wiseman on May 20, 2013, 09:02 PM
Unless I am mistaken, a cave, however small, cannot be man made by definition.

Mine Trial maybe?

Only 1 "d" in adit.
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Ian A on May 20, 2013, 09:06 PM
Erm, well, I have never heard of a "man-made" cave but I guess you could argue one  :blink:

It's not small - it is very large and easy to see from the road as you drive past - it is on a very steep incline and it is also grassy preventing "climbing".

.... have a look when you drive past next  ;)

Ian
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Ali Wiseman on May 20, 2013, 09:13 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave

And for those who, rightly so, do not put total faith in Wikipedia... The Oxford version...

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/cave

Both are defined by natural...

And yes, I'm being a pedantic twat tonight...  :evil:
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: mike leahy on May 20, 2013, 09:15 PM
FIGHT
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Ali Wiseman on May 20, 2013, 09:18 PM
[quote="mike leahy" post=17776]FIGHT[/quote]

Nah, we wuvs ickle Ian... :whistle:  :P
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: mike leahy on May 20, 2013, 09:20 PM
[quote="NewStuff" post=17778][quote="mike leahy" post=17776]FIGHT[/quote]

Nah, we wuvs ickle Ian... :whistle:  :P[/quote]
 well. he is little i'll give you that
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: Ian A on May 20, 2013, 09:39 PM
Charming  :kiss:  :kiss:  :kiss:
Title: Scrambling and taking in 3 peaks of Snowdonia
Post by: John Nicholson on May 21, 2013, 07:24 AM
One of the things I picked up from Elsie Little's presentation is that the Legal term 'cave' applies to any hole in the ground made by natural processes OR made by mankind or any other creature and abandoned.
I also notice several caves marked on OS maps which when examined are entirely man made.  I assume that it is for this reason that the term 'cave' is used in the proposed agreement to include any hole in the ground, be it formed by natural processes or by mining operations.
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