http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU9y19c9jlw
Nice video's Ian :woohoo:
speechless - great vid - but WTF was dan doing ?????
If you watched the video, you would of clearly seen, what i was doing was trying to get out.
my fat arse would not allow this though.
the weight should soon fall off me though, after Ian told me yesterday that i would have to stop drinking rebull, i've not had any today, the lack of sugar should soon kick in and the weight will just drop off me.
[quote="Mad-Dan" post=12769] after Ian told me yesterday that i would have to stop drinking rebull.[/quote]
I did too lol :P
I think it is fantastic how Tim stays calm and supporting all through Dan's agony.
I assume all the others slipped through the vice easily.
Tim was laughing and the others made less of a meal of it - I made a few choice comments as I went up (first) to video the fun :)
i wasnt in agony John, i was never stuck, it is just that progress was slow as i couldnt bend my legs, and what you cant hear in the video is tim and dylan laughing their arse off at me.
that is not the worst ascent i've had to do, it is also not the tightest, not by a long shot.
you do realise you came through the narrowest part of the vice and if you where facing the other way (like you did on the way down) you would of shot up that like a cave snake. fatty ;) ;)
[quote="mike leahy" post=12783]you do realise you came through the narrowest part of the vice and if you where facing the other way (like you did on the way down) you would of shot up that like a cave snake. fatty ;) ;)[/quote]
I know, but if i did it the easy way, how boring would this video be.
entertainment.
showbiz darling showbiz. i knew you where in the wrong game
I see Tony Oldham's posted a link to this video in the "Friday Joke" section of UK caving. Maybe Ian should ask him for a fee :-)
Dave
Perhaps I should try to sell him a book about it ....
lol ;)
Ian
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=12771]I think it is fantastic how Tim stays calm and supporting all through Dan's agony.
I assume all the others slipped through the vice easily.[/quote]
Haha John, I knew he wasn't in any real bother - just being his typical moaning self! Even in the event he was struggling for real those around him remaining calm and keeping the mood light are more likely to help him relax up the climb than anything else.
Its really not as tight as he made it look and he was obviously never at any risk at all - other than ridicule, which he himself was encouraging
Note i went down the same pitch with a large rucksack on my back with a tripod and a pelicase in it on the way down and another large kit back hanging off with with two ropes in it without getting stuck so i 'knew' that however it felt it really wasn't tight! See approx 3min10sec into this video which is the same bit on the way down......
http://youtu.be/KZAINxK8Ocg
I didn't want to spoil the fun (coz i a mean evil bastard :evil: ) but if he'd turned half sideways on he'd have had space for him to bend his legs and even have a rucksack on his back and also if he'd moved over about 12" the gap was much wider. Or if he'd been facing the other way the curve of the rock would have matched the shape of his body better.
Why tell him any of that when its better to shoot up quickly after him only gloat at his exclamation of "how'd you get up there so fast?". All part of the fun of the sport :-) Was a great day of banter - best for ages! Besides which it all gives dan something else to moan about and he loves moaning :-) :lol:
If the drama had have been real then:
a) there was a way to climb past him and we could have just left him and gone to the pub - quite likely!
or,
b) rope from below could have been passed up and an assisted hoist rigged (or 101 other options) to get him out such that he could pay for the beers at said pub!
You'll learn all this when you complete your SRT training and get on some real trips ;-) - i notice Budgies posted some dates :whistle: :whistle:
Thanks for the explanation Tim.
You have also already answered a questionm i meant to ask ... did you go down one hole and back up another? i.e. did Dan and all of you pass easily through the vice on the way down or did you go down somewhere else?
It seems this deep narrow pot is not protected to prevent ramblers and other sheep falling own into its nightmare grip.
Probably because most people avoid a hole in the ground, whereas we see it as an opportunity.
Good vid Ian.
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=12797]Thanks for the explanation Tim.
You have also already answered a questionm i meant to ask ... did you go down one hole and back up another? i.e. did Dan and all of you pass easily through the vice on the way down or did you go down somewhere else?
It seems this deep narrow pot is not protected to prevent ramblers and other sheep falling own into its nightmare grip.[/quote]
yer - we went exactly the same route in and then followed it out.
There is also an option for a single free handing 80m from top to bottom but wheres the fun it that? The route we took wandered from and back to the main 'pot' and was much more interesting :-)
nom its just a big hole in the ground and relies on the basic desire of creatures wanting to stay alive not to attemp to leap down it rather than needing to rely on fences etc - we don't aim to fence every single cliff face and falling is pretty similar above of below ground! - hmmm... a normal creatures desire to stay alive keeps it out.....which i suppose says a lot about the average cavers state of mind!!??!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Are there many other gaping holes in the Yorkshire countryside like that? The impression I got from the video is that you could easily fall down that hole if your were just roaming about in the dark or in twilight.
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=12801]Are there many other gaping holes in the Yorkshire countryside like that? The impression I got from the video is that you could easily fall down that hole if your were just roaming about in the dark or in twilight.[/quote]
There are a few like that in the dales.. alot are fenced off though
if you cant see the hole and fall into it is that called natural selection ??
few yorkshire dales potholes are fenced - and in the case of jingling - it would require over 150m of fencing
and just on west kingsdale - there is rowten and bull pot that have significant open shafts
plus several more where a fall in the ent. series would result in serious injury
then there are hundreds of other grykes , shakeholes , boulders , rabit holes , drain ditches and stream run-offs that :
` an idiot wandering randomly at night ` could incapacitate themselfs by falling into them blind
to be blunt - there should not be people wandering randomly on the fell tops with no light .
you cannot protect every idiot from every hazard - and once you start trying - its a slipery slope - where do you stop ???
heck even gaping ghyll main shaft has minimal protection - its only partially fenced to stop people descending the flabks of the shakehole - wehere it " appears " safe - but one slip out be fatal
and bottom line - i know of no incidents of people ` roaming ` and falling into a dales pot - at least in recent years
[quote="steveturbo" post=12803]if you cant see the hole and fall into it is that called natural selection ??[/quote]
Indeed there is that
I am pretty sure there is no legal requirement to make safe a natural feature.
(might be wrong :blink: )
Depends what use the land has.. if it had a commercial use and owner they have a duty of care..
"Commercial use" - yes .... but not in every case (depends on the use)
I did say I might be wrong :silly: :silly: :silly:
Indeed you did...
[quote="Mad-Dan" post=12769]
the weight should soon fall off me though, [/quote]
If only it was that easy, we could all be as skinny as Mike Leany.
well after just going for my first jog, and weighing my self to see where i am now, i'm around 4 stone lighter than i was this time last year, and that is without doing any exercise other than work and underground trips.
[quote="Mad-Dan" post=12832]well after just going for my first jog, and weighing my self to see where i am now, i'm around 4 stone lighter than i was this time last year, and that is without doing any exercise other than work and underground trips.[/quote] have a work out with dylan he's lost 3 stone
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=12829][quote="Mad-Dan" post=12769]
the weight should soon fall off me though, [/quote]
If only it was that easy, we could all be as skinny as Mike Leany.[/quote]
leahy. mr n. leahy. :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:
[quote="mike leahy" post=12836][quote="Mad-Dan" post=12832]well after just going for my first jog, and weighing my self to see where i am now, i'm around 4 stone lighter than i was this time last year, and that is without doing any exercise other than work and underground trips.[/quote] have a work out with dylan he's lost 3 stone[/quote]
but i would eat 3 kebabs and drink 5 cans of coke on the drive over.
[quote="Mad-Dan" post=12844][quote="mike leahy" post=12836][quote="Mad-Dan" post=12832]well after just going for my first jog, and weighing my self to see where i am now, i'm around 4 stone lighter than i was this time last year, and that is without doing any exercise other than work and underground trips.[/quote] have a work out with dylan he's lost 3 stone[/quote]
but i would eat 3 kebabs and drink 5 cans of coke on the drive over.[/quote]
Just 5... The multi packs are 6cans..
i would need one for the trip back.
this would also be a replacement for the energy drink addiction i'm currently trying to get over.
[quote="Mad-Dan" post=12846]i would need one for the trip back.
this would also be a replacement for the energy drink addiction i'm currently trying to get over.[/quote]
Energy drinks taste foul.. How can anyone be addicted to them
do they eck, they come in all kinds of flavors
[quote="Mad-Dan" post=12848]do they eck, they come in all kinds of flavors[/quote]
Aye they do indeed...
Acid bath flavour 1 and sugar overload flavour 2