Here it is folks:
Trip One: Sledgehammer`s Gig - Poachers Cave
Trip type: General mooch
Meet point: Cilcain Bridge
Meet time: 18.30
Notes: Usual - wet, muddy & dark, amd a short electron to get in/out
Trip Two: Bella`s Birthday treat - OHA
Trip Type: Mooch through the canal to the pitch and back
Meet point: Cilcain bridge
Meet time: 18.30
Notes: Will get incredibly wet, muddy & medium electron to enter/exit. Free climb with aid of knotted rope half way to cliff. Trip through the canal usually means wet to the chest at least.
All none of this floats your boat Murph may be digging at maeshafn??
oha for me
Can we cancel the Poachers Trip please - the Sledgehamma party are booked for the 9th Aug (the following Thurs) not this one.
Sorry for any inconvenience :(
Ian
PS. We will have a guest on Thursday - coming from Wrexham, he is on the forum as "Badger" and his name is "Martin" - if he could be recieved and looked after I would be very grateful. :)
Are you not coming to OHA then ian?
Mike said you were the best receiver in the club :(
[quote="Suboffender" post=8172]Are you not coming to OHA then ian? [/quote]
...Erm, no ;)
QuoteMike said you were the best receiver in the club :(
... Erm, no idea what you mean :dry: :S :whistle:
If Badger comes down OHA for the first part to the bottom of the climb then I am happy to stay there with him or explore the other passageways a bit whilst others take Bella and Chris through the canals. We can also listen to the screams and splashing from below! I could also spend some time usefully making the sand crawl a bit easier.
Any of those will be fine John - he isn't inexperienced though ;)
I am sure there will be plenty of people to help hoim down OHA to the base of the cliff. If Captn Mike is there then he may have a ladder to help everyone up to the canals. If Badger does not like the look of the ascent then I am sure there will be plenty of things to do. I take it you have other plans - may be exploring that new sink or finding a way through the burried gate.
My daughter has ask if she can come again this week, no rehearsals this time so we will will give it a go again, as she has not used an electron ladder can we give her a rope for the entry ladder.
It would also be great if you could put a ladder up before the canals, is that possible Mike.
See you Thursday
JohnO
Joel if you are coming I will try and remember to bring those hooks with me.
Excellent John O. Sorry that you could not manage it last week.
I would also be much happier if Mike can hang an electron for the precipice. I would also very much like to watch him climb the normal ropes to attach the ladder so I can see how it is done.
I'm coming, and if you could bring those hooks, it would be good. Cheers John :)
[quote="JohnO" post=8186]My daughter has ask if she can come again this week, no rehearsals this time so we will will give it a go again, as she has not used an electron ladder can we give her a rope for the entry ladder.
It would also be great if you could put a ladder up before the canals, is that possible Mike.
See you Thursday
JohnO
Joel if you are coming I will try and remember to bring those hooks with me.[/quote]
extra ladder and life line will be packed :kiss: :kiss:
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=8187]I would also very much like to watch him climb the normal ropes to attach the ladder so I can see how it is done.[/quote]
John, with the experience you've now got you might be the one thats sent up to hang the ladder for the 'newbies'! Its easier than it looks and you're becoming an 'old hand' now. How times change huu? It doesn't seem five minutes since I first met you in Maeshafn mine as a young whipper snatcher (relatively speaking!)
I could use another 60 litres of clean/dry oil if you're coming to the bridge. I'll have to put it on an IOU until i next see you though if thats ok? If theres no-one in chuck it under the back end of my Sankey trailer. I'm not desperate so no worries if you can't or are running late on the night etc. I'm not even back for another 9 days yet, and I still have 40lit of the last batch left. But i may be using the Landy for a trip up to Middlesbrough and some other longer distance caving trips over the next few weeks. So its worth building up my stocks a little :-)
Sounds exciting: see you all there at Cilcain, dressed for the party.
Yes, I can bring you another 60L UCO easy. I can leave at your house on our way back to the Brit. I suggest you blend with some of my normal fuel to provide the basic liquid engineering expected by a diesel engine and injector pump. You can also use this for the starting fuel.
I am cautious about trying the precipice without any experienced members of UCET there in case I make a mess and have to be hauled out. I could spoil Bella's enthusiasm for cave and mine exploring by making a mess somewhere - and I nearly did in Nadolig! I am sure I will be much more adventurous when I have completed Budgies course and feel confident at SRT.
I may be there tomorrow :)
hi iam martin i have been mine explorering for 6 years but had a year off becaues of moveing to diffrent countery i have been cimbing and abseiling for 2 years but iam not a master at it cant wait to meet you all to learn new skills and friends :)
:cheer:
Thanks for the observation Ian. Nicole is in Portugal.
See you next week :)
Coooooooooooolies B)
Another really splendid trip. Many thanks to Captn Mike and Paul Boyd for guiding and helping us all through the route, and especially for taking Bella through to the top of the big incline. Bella said it was the best trip she has ever done! Chris also said it was the best cave he has done so far. Badger seemed also quite elated when he emerged from underground and wanted to dive immediately into Poachers for a second dose.
thanks every one for last night i enjoyed my self cant wait to do it next thursday :)
We had a good time at the White Horse after the trip with JO, JN, Chris, Bella and Ness. We also had a good chat with other people in the bar - who now seem to be getting more used to us! One guy (called Garreth I think) is very keen to come along on at least a taster trip. He actually owns the land immediately behind the Cilcain Bridge Car Park, and most of the way up to Loggerheads. He says that there are lots of holes on his land, some take in water, some you can crawl into. He was asking about the caves on the left slope of the Devil's Gorge. Do they go anywhere?
I suggested he joins us at Cilcain Car Park next Thursday for the Sledgehammer trip.
Hi John
I am under the impression that all the land from the car park to Devils Gorge & beyond is owned by Lloyds, managed by Strutt & Parker but now also under the watchful 'managemant' of Countryside Sevices and Flintshire CC.
I think Gareth owns the land on the other side of the river although I'm sure someone will corrct me on this.
A phone call can confirm this which I'll do if you want.
If the cave he mentions in the side of Devils gorge is the one at the top of the gorge then it goes nowhere. Just about 20 yds to a shaft thet is about 20ft deep at the side of the path.
At the moment the water from the Alyn sinks into a hole below Devils gorge.
I suggested somewhere that it may be possible that this may be linked to Hesp Alyn possibly via Murphys Pot.
IF we could define the height at the end of OHA that might give some indication which way to go!
Get back underground Frank ! ;)
HI IAN
Would love to but a bit immobile at the mo. See my post regarding Millwr tunnel!
Hi Frank,
I suggest we don't question Gareth any further until he comes to us - by way of joining a trip underground. We need to guarantee his confidence in us and the underworld. What would be good is to remind him that we will be meeting on Thursday and that he is most welcome to join us. We can provide helmet lights etc. All he needs is some old clothes that can get a bit muddy.
I guessed he is a farmer - was I right?
Yes if its the Gareth I know he is, great bloke