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Cave and Mine Exploring => Mines => Topic started by: Stephen Bailey John on Jul 30, 2012, 03:41 PM

Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Stephen Bailey John on Jul 30, 2012, 03:41 PM
This video from the youtube gives a description of mine features in an American mine, as well as cartoons of failing mine explorers.

Is the terminology the same over here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynwoYVHx5O8&feature=related
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Tim Watts on Jul 30, 2012, 03:57 PM
pretty much - well found - great video.
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Ian A on Jul 30, 2012, 04:02 PM
Nice little video from the HSE brigade of the USA  :)

I think the terms are the same - I saw/heard a few words I have not come across but, in the main, they all appear to be the same  :)

Ian
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: mike leahy on Jul 30, 2012, 04:25 PM
what they call a drift we would call a level or load the milwr tunnel used the term load  as in load 621 or load 635 ect ect .it depended on the mining companys but ive never heard the term drift other than in the snow  ;)  ;)
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Tim Watts on Jul 30, 2012, 05:46 PM
I'm assuming that you've all seen this before now??

http://www.aditnow.co.uk/dictionary/mining-dictionary.aspx


apparently.....

A drift - is bit like an adit except its inclined
An Adit - a Horizonal one
An Incline - is a inclined track.

A Lode - is an ore bearing vein.

at least according to whoever compiled it....i guess lots of stuff open to interpretation.

I always forget the correct terminology for everything anyway!!
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Danny Sutton on Jul 30, 2012, 06:00 PM
That video says going in old mines is dangerous, i think we should all stop doing it.
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Stephen Bailey John on Jul 30, 2012, 06:29 PM
the video demonstrates that it's only really dangerous if you are a cartoon person. if you are real it's ok!
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Tim Watts on Jul 30, 2012, 07:05 PM
actually, its not 'too in your face HSE biased. Its quite educational in terms of telling you whats down there and raising the dangers. I.e. if you are going to go in there, this is what you can expect.

If someone is going to enter a mine it better they appreciate the dangers i guess so that they can make an educated decision about their destiny.

Ignorance is bliss....hmmmmm.

If it was a UK HSE video it would be dumbed down:

"Do Not enter - you will die" and there would have been non of the educational bit.

US are strange, they invented the sue the fcuk out of everyone culture but they are also quite relaxed on certain aspects of industrial procedures and technical engineering standards - which is why their safety records in terms of relative numbers of deaths in the workplace are shockingly high, compared to the UK anyway.

I'm all for the concept of freely spreading the knowledge and then leave people to make up their own mind on how to conduct themselves. AKA the common sense approach.

Darwin assures us that ultimately there will be a natural order to things, the problem is that modern society doesn't leave people to their natural devices but instead trys to control everything with regulation, normally to suit the lowest common denominator.

Anyone see the film Idiocracy? Its a shit film but its not far from the truth! haha
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: mike leahy on Jul 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
[quote="little joe" post=8156]the video demonstrates that it's only really dangerous if you are a cartoon person. if you are real it's ok![/quote]

well thats us buggered then , most of our members are a bunch of cartoon loons
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Joel Colk on Jul 30, 2012, 07:35 PM
Nice find! Thanks for posting :)
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: John Nicholson on Jul 30, 2012, 08:15 PM
I have never heard the phrase 'Ballroom' - meaning a large stope.  May be we don't have any.
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Claire Brimson on Jul 30, 2012, 08:47 PM
The word 'drift' is often used in Coal Mining  :)
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Philip Scott on Jul 30, 2012, 09:43 PM
My local (coal) maps refer to "slants", I THINK these are coal seams that are at an acute angle rather than the usual approximate horizontal.

Also another term which is still in my locality used to settle most pub arguments:

"Yeah, but he was a f*ckin scab in the miner's strike"
Title: Mine terminology
Post by: Philip Scott on Jul 30, 2012, 09:54 PM
...also "journey" - which I think means a string of wagons coupled together - which would be otherwise called a train.

Note that that the thing that pulls the wagons is a "locomotive" or "engine", the train is the combination of wagons and loco.