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Cave and Mine Exploring => Trips and Events => Topic started by: evan john on Apr 17, 2012, 09:14 PM

Title: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: evan john on Apr 17, 2012, 09:14 PM
Here it is folks:

Trip: Cabin Shaft, Minera

Trip Type: General mooch

Meet time: 19.00

Meet point: The Moors Inn car park, Bwlchgwyn

Notes: Electron ladder on entry/exit, a bit shitty but a good trip!!
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Joel Colk on Apr 17, 2012, 09:38 PM
I'm out. I left my caving gear in someones car, and it's gone to Manchester...
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ali Wiseman on Apr 17, 2012, 09:49 PM
Haha, Sods law strikes again!

I see a "local" trip, and I can't get a Babysitter...

I'll keep trying, but it's not looking good.
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Tim Watts on Apr 17, 2012, 10:11 PM
I'll be there - will bring a ladder

google maps link of meeting point:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Bwlchgwyn+moors+inn&hl=en&ll=53.070083,-3.121523&spn=0.002678,0.006968&sll=53.071275,-3.099947&sspn=0.005357,0.013937&hq=moors+inn&hnear=Bwlchgwyn,+Wrexham,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=53.07003,-3.121231&panoid=5CE1wzgaaGnhRpT6R-889A&cbp=12,172.93,,0,2.29


also this link to the Knowledge Base:

http://www.ucet.org.uk/index.php/forum/21-knowledge-bank/687-cabin-shaft-minera

Anyone thinking about srt'ing to the turk? I've never been.
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 17, 2012, 11:04 PM
The gate to Grand Turk is now open Tim - no need to go through Minera.

I would suggest that Grand Turk be a trip on it's own merits - it is a 5 hour + trip to go through Minera and do Grand Turk and go back.

Should get away with two electons instead of SRT but don't quote me on that ;)

Ian
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 17, 2012, 11:06 PM
It's also worth pointing out that Minera is very mineral rich and is a veritable warren of passages. It is a very interesting trip in its own right and is much bigger than time will allow for on a Thursday evening.

Knee pads essential !

:)

Ian
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Tim Watts on Apr 17, 2012, 11:22 PM
sounds like a plan - just minera it is then - whos leading?
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 18, 2012, 08:19 AM
Depends who is going and where everyone wants to go - there are multiple routes ;)

Also, I would suggest a lifeline for anyone is is not comfortable on a free-hanging 30 foot electron ladder :)

Ian
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Tim Watts on Apr 18, 2012, 08:30 AM
ian, as i'm not sure who is is going, i'll bring ladder and lifeline.

tim
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Dean Wood on Apr 18, 2012, 01:53 PM
I shall be there :)
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: John Nicholson on Apr 18, 2012, 02:40 PM
I hope to come.  Thanks for the map Tim. Lifeline please, as I am not expert (yet) on free electrons, but the more practice I can get the better.  I will have SRT belt to hang my life on.
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Tony Adams on Apr 18, 2012, 02:58 PM
I'll be there :cheer:
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: mike leahy on Apr 18, 2012, 07:15 PM
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=6107] I will have SRT belt to hang my life on.[/quote]

:angry: :angry: :angry:
no such thing as a srt belt.
naughty boy
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 18, 2012, 07:19 PM
[quote="mike leahy" post=6109][quote="JohnNicholson" post=6107] I will have SRT belt to hang my life on.[/quote]

:angry: :angry: :angry:
no such thing as a srt belt.
naughty boy[/quote]

.... You know what he means and I think it is perfectly reasonable to use a belt under the circumstances :P
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Joel Colk on Apr 18, 2012, 07:24 PM
[quote="Ian" post=6110][quote="mike leahy" post=6109][quote="JohnNicholson" post=6107] I will have SRT belt to hang my life on.[/quote]

:angry: :angry: :angry:
no such thing as a srt belt.
naughty boy[/quote]

.... You know what he means and I think it is perfectly reasonable to use a belt under the circumstances :P[/quote]

Many members are into their hanging suffocation bondage :p
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: mike leahy on Apr 18, 2012, 07:28 PM
[quote="Suboffender" post=6111][quote="Ian" post=6110][quote="mike leahy" post=6109][quote="JohnNicholson" post=6107] I will have SRT belt to hang my life on.[/quote]

:angry: :angry: :angry:
no such thing as a srt belt.
naughty boy[/quote]

.... You know what he means and I think it is perfectly reasonable to use a belt under the circumstances :P[/quote]

Many members are into their hanging suffocation bondage :p[/quote]
i agree but john does'nt seem the sort
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 18, 2012, 07:32 PM
[quote="mike leahy" post=6112]
i agree but john does'nt seem the sort[/quote]

..... ask him ?   You never can tell ;)
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: mike leahy on Apr 18, 2012, 08:00 PM
[quote="Ian" post=6113][quote="mike leahy" post=6112]
i agree but john does'nt seem the sort[/quote]

..... ask him ?   You never can tell ;)[/quote]

just because you get up to allsorts behind closed doors in your MENS club does'nt mean we all do :silly: :blink: :silly: :blink: :silly: :blink:
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: mike leahy on Apr 18, 2012, 08:02 PM
just a thought , why don't we drop a ladder down cabin go in through grand turk entrance and work are way out :dry: :dry: :dry:
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 18, 2012, 08:37 PM
We can do ... there will be at least three people who have not been in Minera and would enjouy a wander - we could go out the Grand turk entrance anyway (do both)

;)

Ian
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: mike leahy on Apr 18, 2012, 08:56 PM
ye i suppose we can make it up on the night
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: John Nicholson on Apr 18, 2012, 09:02 PM
Actually it is the clubs belt - after all the amusement it has caused.

What is the right name for the thing then?

I upset Guy by calling his apparatus 'a nappy' when I first saw one being prepared for use at Belgrave.
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Tom Howard on Apr 18, 2012, 09:08 PM
May I join you? Had a fantastic time last time :)

Also, Sorry Joel. If i'd have had my brain in gear and thought there might be a possibility of seeing you before Ed did I could've taken it from him and brought it along tomorrow.. See you at the open weekend though?

TLH
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 18, 2012, 09:11 PM
John .... calling it a nappy is just fine ;)

Tom ... yes of course you can :)

Ian
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Tim Watts on Apr 19, 2012, 05:46 PM
right, ladder and safety line in landy -all set and ready to go :-) see you i a bit.

ps. just been on to our server providers helpdesk - server was down again at there end - just had a damn good moan at them about reliability issues.
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: John Nicholson on Apr 20, 2012, 10:10 AM
Looking back after a long lie-in on Friday morning - it was a good trip (but much moaning from me during the course of it).  

Started badly with discovery that the ladder was too short by six feet, but Ian came to the rescue with his monster ladder.  The formations in the first cavern are fantastic.  

The rest of the trip was varying grades of agony, with several tight squeezes through bolders, and a terrifying ascent up a vertical wet shaft.  It all made sipping a good beer whilst sitting in front of a warm log fire in the Glan especially relaxing.  

Thanks again to every one - for taking me in getting me out.

I look forward to the film.
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Joel Colk on Apr 20, 2012, 10:27 AM
"vertical wet shaft"

Sounds like you guys managed to make the connection then? Did you come out of the enterence to grand Turk?
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Joel Colk on Apr 20, 2012, 10:28 AM
[quote="TLH" post=6119]May I join you? Had a fantastic time last time :)

Also, Sorry Joel. If i'd have had my brain in gear and thought there might be a possibility of seeing you before Ed did I could've taken it from him and brought it along tomorrow.. See you at the open weekend though?

TLH[/quote]

No worries tom. I think I'm going up to manchester this weekend anyway. You should be seeing me at the open weekend too :)
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 20, 2012, 10:35 AM
[quote="Suboffender" post=6138]"vertical wet shaft"

Sounds like you guys managed to make the connection then? Did you come out of the enterence to grand Turk?[/quote]

In a word - "yes" ;)
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Joel Colk on Apr 20, 2012, 10:37 AM
Well done. I'm not sure if I could remember the way!
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Tim Watts on Apr 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
Mike and ian made it look easy - didn't once make a wrong turn ;-)
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: John Nicholson on Apr 20, 2012, 10:51 AM
Ian did not know the way either, and we went down several routes only to be told to go back.  Ian must have covered twice the distance exploring routes as well as photographing the whole trip.  We did eventually get out of the Turk tunnel, which thankfully was not locked (even though Ian yelled back to us that is WAS locked and we would have to go all the way back the way we had come).  

The lesson for this trip for me is that there isa a great need for some 3D mapping of systems as complicated as this one.  I guess we actually saw a fraction of the extent of the system.  Ian's description of the Great Turk cavern is very enticing.
Title: Re: Thursday 19 April 2012
Post by: Ian A on Apr 20, 2012, 06:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ESdqr69yE