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Cave and Mine Exploring => Trips and Events => Topic started by: evan john on Feb 26, 2012, 03:24 PM

Title: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: evan john on Feb 26, 2012, 03:24 PM
Are you ready?

Trip: Bog Mine

Trip Type: General mooch round the Ladder museum

Meet time: 18.30

Meet point: Llanferres lay-by on the Mold/Ruthin Rd.

Notes: It`s not called the ladder museum for nothing, this is quite a sporty trip with loads of ladders, some scrambling, false floors and water at the bottom level - all in all great fun!!
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ian A on Feb 26, 2012, 03:32 PM
It will be interesting to see how much water there is in the bottom level - I suspect it will now be ceiling height again and impassable just like the Spar mine :dry:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: mike leahy on Feb 26, 2012, 04:11 PM
ye not much chance of a new shaft through trip ( unless tim&johno turn up with there aqualungs).
should be fun though i quite like bog mine
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ian A on Feb 26, 2012, 04:14 PM
You seem to like all sorts of squeezy, wet, damp and dirty holes. I have noticed you also enjoy caving :blink:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: mike leahy on Feb 26, 2012, 04:17 PM
[quote="Ian" post=4996]You seem to like all sorts of squeezy, wet, damp and dirty holes. I have noticed you also enjoy caving :blink:[/quote]

;)  cheeky i'll get chris on you , she will sort you out no bother :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ian A on Feb 26, 2012, 04:23 PM
[quote="mike leahy" post=4997]

;)  cheeky i'll get chris on you , she will sort you out no bother :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

... Need I remind you what happened when you exceeded your mobile phone quota ?

;)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Dean Wood on Feb 26, 2012, 04:52 PM
Been looking forward to this one ! Whos gona volunteer to catch me when i tumble down the ladders ! :woohoo:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: mike leahy on Feb 26, 2012, 05:12 PM
[quote="Deano" post=4999]Been looking forward to this one ! Whos gona volunteer to catch me when i tumble down the ladders ! :woohoo:[/quote]

 IAN
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ian A on Feb 26, 2012, 06:03 PM
Charming :kiss:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Frank Hill on Feb 26, 2012, 06:36 PM
Would defo want to be in on this if I can get a pass.
Need a wetsuit??
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Dean Wood on Feb 26, 2012, 07:01 PM
Do you need cows tails for this one at all ??
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ian A on Feb 26, 2012, 07:24 PM
You won't need a wetsuit - you will get covered in the usual goo.

Cowstails not essential but there are a couple of places you can and should clip on. Bring them if you have them. :)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Tim Watts on Feb 26, 2012, 11:04 PM
or ucet clothing quota
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Frank Hill on Feb 27, 2012, 08:51 AM
Tim
If you are coming I think you may have a shirt for me?
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: John Nicholson on Feb 27, 2012, 10:20 AM
I have just looked at Ian's film 'Bolting the Bog Mine' and it seems the 'Ladders' are wire laders similar to electrons, not nice solid fixed steel ladders as in Hendre.  Should newibes like me be hitched to a belay for this trip?
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Frank Hill on Feb 27, 2012, 10:43 AM
Where is the video? would like a look at that.

Also could someone tell me where you will be entering the mine as I can't see the point of me going to Llanbferres and then coming back on myself.
PM if need be TA!!
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: John Nicholson on Feb 27, 2012, 11:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ewxEex_Q1M

I think the location is quite near to the Belgrave mine, but parking near the entrance may be restricted.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Tim Watts on Feb 27, 2012, 01:38 PM
No, most of the ladders are substitutional things - nothing to worry about! We were bolting and fitting the wire in order to make the through trip from new shaft a bit easier. But all that section is likely to be flooded at the moment anyway.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ian A on Feb 27, 2012, 01:39 PM
[quote="JohnNicholson" post=5011]  Should newibes like me be hitched to a belay for this trip?[/quote]

I wouldn't call you a "newbie" and, no, you don't need belaying, the ladders are mostly short and most are rigid. There is a winze with a knotted rope to descend (walk backwards and downwards) but the winze is tight enough to wedge yourself into if you need a rest.

There are two areas where you would benefit from cowstails if you have them but you can manage without.

:)

Ian
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Tim Watts on Feb 27, 2012, 01:57 PM
For those who are curious (And if my memory is correct), Bog mine is a little way up this track.

http://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=53.106779,-3.193245&spn=0.01484,0.027595&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=53.106825,-3.193262&panoid=JG5830IeI1g-WbyE3B-5lQ&cbp=12,108.2,,0,2.66

I'll be offerering nine seats up for grabs in the team bus from the normal layby (as per the meeting point in Hoss's post). So I imagine we'll reduce the number of cars at the actual mine to a sensible number.

I'll also try to remember to have a belt and cows tails in the landy for anyone who feels that they would like to borrow them.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Frank Hill on Feb 27, 2012, 05:14 PM
Thanks Tim
I thought that's where it was.,
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ali Wiseman on Feb 28, 2012, 06:58 PM
Myself and 4737Carlin (2 of the group from AditNow last week at Bellgrave), will be there barring unforeseen Circumstances.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ian A on Feb 28, 2012, 07:49 PM
[quote="NewStuff" post=5065]Myself and 4737Carlin (2 of the group from AditNow last week at Bellgrave), will be there barring unforeseen Circumstances.[/quote]

Coooooooooooolies ;)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: mike leahy on Feb 28, 2012, 08:07 PM
[quote="NewStuff" post=5065]Myself and 4737Carlin (2 of the group from AditNow last week at Bellgrave), will be there barring unforeseen Circumstances.[/quote]

 well done guy's see you there :silly: :blink: :silly: :blink:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Joel Colk on Feb 28, 2012, 08:46 PM
[quote="NewStuff" post=5065]Myself and 4737Carlin (2 of the group from AditNow last week at Bellgrave), will be there barring unforeseen Circumstances.[/quote]

Yup, will be good to have you both along again :silly:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Tim Watts on Feb 28, 2012, 09:17 PM
Good stuff - more the merrier :-)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Alison Webster on Feb 29, 2012, 08:55 PM
I will be there too.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: John Nicholson on Mar 02, 2012, 07:51 AM
Thanks for such an incredible trip.  I still can't believe that I achieved it!

I had a dream last night that Joel had set up a kitchen at the bottom of the 'Wet Red Carpet', and a delicioius smell of cooking onions was rising up th shaft.

Although I was very stiff and exhausted when we got to the Glan, I don't feel too bad the following morning.

Thanks again to Mike, Tim and Ian for taking us down and bringing us out again safely!
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ali Wiseman on Mar 02, 2012, 08:54 AM
That was huge fun, and I think I surprised myself with how little I was worrying about heights.

I'll note not to lug a bag down next time, or at least something I can hang from a harness. Huge thanks to Tim for lugging it for me when things got tight.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Tim Watts on Mar 02, 2012, 09:29 AM
John, You're probably getting conditioned to it now - somehow it seems to get easier the more you do it - and with the aches and pains!!

Newstuff! No problem with the bag - no problem at all. Glad you enjoyed admiring all the ladders! You'll find a thread on here about that SRT training if you're interested.

Hope to see you out soon - although i'll be working now for the next to weeks :-( :-(
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Brian Carlin on Mar 02, 2012, 08:29 PM
Great trip last nights, cheers all for that, a hugh differance from the slate mines!! just been brushing the dust of my cloths outside :)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: mike leahy on Mar 02, 2012, 09:01 PM
[quote="4737carlin" post=5156]Great trip last nights, cheers all for that, a hugh differance from the slate mines!! just been brushing the dust of my cloths outside :)[/quote]
 never mind that slate stuff brian you want to get trained up on srt and get yourself to yorkshire with us . thats when the real fun starts
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Ali Wiseman on Mar 02, 2012, 09:04 PM
[quote="4737carlin" post=5156]Great trip last nights, cheers all for that, a hugh differance from the slate mines!! just been brushing the dust of my cloths outside :)[/quote]

I spent nearly 2 hours washing mine before SWMBO decided they would be allowed to grace the house with their presence.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: mike leahy on Mar 02, 2012, 09:07 PM
[quote="NewStuff" post=5160][/quote]

just one word on that subject
WARMBAC
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: mick murphy on Mar 02, 2012, 10:11 PM
Thanks to Mad mick for this it took 1 year weekend in and weekend out too dig and scaff the boulder chokes build all the ladders and make the connection to new shaft.
thanks mick we take it for granted the trip we foget about all the work that has to be done to have the trip, any way we will all love to help you on your digs if this is what it reults in ,thanks eveyone i have 2 going on. that have major potential
thanks again mick. that mike leahy should stop slating you, psst i think f....er is
jealous between me and you, you might be right Pete, anyway pete thanks for the right up, i will take you to the dig on thursday,i know you have been on them all and i will
acknowledge this on the break through,see you next week mick
Title: Re: Thurs trip 01/03/12
Post by: Martin Poole on Mar 03, 2012, 06:39 AM
[quote="madmicks" post=5162]Thanks to Mad mick for this it took 1 year weekend in and weekend out too dig and scaff the boulder chokes build all the ladders and make the connection to new shaft.
thanks mick we take it for granted the trip we foget about all the work that has to be done to have the trip, any way we will all love to help you on your digs if this is what it reults in ,thanks eveyone i have 2 going on. that have major potential
thanks again mick. that mike leahy should stop slating you, psst i think f....er is
jealous between me and you, you might be right Pete, anyway pete thanks for the right up, i will take you to the dig on thursday,i know you have been on them all and i will
acknowledge this on the break through,see you next week mick[/quote]you been drinking again murf?