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Title: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: evan john on Sep 03, 2011, 09:22 PM
Here it is:

Trip: Hendre Spar Mine

Trip Type: watersports - boating fun on record low water to explore unseen parts of the mine

Meet point: The Oak, Hendre(car park not bar)

Meet time: 18.30

Notes:  The intention is to take as many floatation devices as possible and explore the unseen parts of the mine as the water level is currently at a record low.

You will get wet if you take part but feel free to spectate. cameras welcome!!

WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ASK FOR PERMISSION TO PARK AT THE PUB.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Tim Watts on Sep 03, 2011, 09:35 PM
I'll be working - but please please please, someone take a camera!
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Dylan Roberts on Sep 03, 2011, 09:46 PM
I'm up for this trip :woohoo: Apart from srt gear is it worth bringing a wetsuit?
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: evan john on Sep 03, 2011, 09:51 PM
dont think you will need SRT but defo wetsuit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Dylan Roberts on Sep 03, 2011, 09:53 PM
I thought you needed to abseil down to the lowest level of hendre spar
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: evan john on Sep 03, 2011, 09:56 PM
na, it`s a nice little wander down the ladders!!
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Dylan Roberts on Sep 03, 2011, 09:59 PM
Sorry I was thinking of the hole you can abseil through
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 03, 2011, 11:45 PM
It would be good to see you Dylan ....

The water level has never been this low and this is the first time we can get into the lowest workings.

B) B) B)

Ian
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Dylan Roberts on Sep 03, 2011, 11:50 PM
As things stand I will be there thursday. Don't want to miss an oppertunity like this.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 03, 2011, 11:54 PM
Excellent :silly:

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !

:)

Ian
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Tim Watts on Sep 04, 2011, 12:10 AM
[quote="Ian" post=2267]Excellent :silly:

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !

:)

Ian[/quote]

ian,

Just thinking about what great footage this could be - but high likelyhood of a wet camera.

if i dropped off my camera in the scuba housing with mike before i leave would you be up for getting it wet on my behalf?

Contols are as easy as pressing the top white button for on/off and the big yellow shutter release for start/stop recording. Its old, doesn't even let you zoom while videoing.

its pretty much bomb proof - i've dived down to 50ish meters with it :-) If anything went 'wrong' i wouldn't hold you liable!

Let me know because i'll leave it charged,memory card cleared etc etc.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 04, 2011, 12:15 AM
Cheers Tim .... I have one but the quality is a bit crap ....leave it with me, I may drown another one ;)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Vikki Sestan on Sep 04, 2011, 10:15 PM
Count me in! Looking forward to my first thursday evening trip :-)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: John Oh on Sep 05, 2011, 10:22 AM
As the self appointed UCET Water Safety Officer :woohoo:  I would like to ask all members on this trip to bring a BA (buoyancy aid (Life jacket)) with them if they have one.

The water will be cold and wet :ohmy:  I know this from personal experience


 
Being a UCET trip it is inevitable that you WILL fall in and if you don't then you may just get a small push :evil:  

I have about 5 BA's that I can bring.

Regards

JohnO
"UCET Water Safety Commander"
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Martin Poole on Sep 05, 2011, 04:18 PM
Gas meter needed for this in case of small amount of carbon dioxide sitting on top of the water ..it can be found at the very lowest points of a mine in its sumps so be careful.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 05, 2011, 05:37 PM
[quote="martymarty" post=2281]Gas meter needed for this in case of small amount of carbon dioxide sitting on top of the water ..it can be found at the very lowest points of a mine in its sumps so be careful.[/quote]

it's a ucet trip of-coarse there's going to be bad air most of the members stink to high heaven:sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 05, 2011, 05:54 PM
Just a point to note ...

The club secretary has recorded a note to the effect we now have a club "water safety officer".

B)
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 05, 2011, 06:12 PM
[quote="Ian" post=2284]Just a point to note ...

The club secretary has recorded a note to the effect we now have a club "water safety officer".

B)[/quote]

sorry to be picky but you forgot the COMMANDER bit:silly: :blink: :silly: :blink:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 05, 2011, 06:39 PM
His "rank" is Commander, his "title" is Water Safety officer (not that I am being nitpicking :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:  )
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 05, 2011, 06:42 PM
[quote="Ian" post=2287]His "rank" is Commander, his "title" is Water Safety officer (not that I am being nitpicking :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:  )[/quote]

 ooooow had a BAD day ay the office luv:evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 05, 2011, 06:45 PM
[quote="mike leahy" post=2290]

 ooooow had a BAD day ay the office luv:evil: :evil: :evil:[/quote]


mmmmmmmmm .. quite so Captain :unsure:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: evan john on Sep 05, 2011, 08:56 PM
JohnO, Can I please borrow a BA????  Even a mad murdoch will do if not??
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 05, 2011, 11:19 PM
You know perfectly well you provocative t%$t !!!!

:blink: :blink: :blink:

Ian
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 07, 2011, 08:34 PM
why is everybody after a ba would you put one on if you went for a swim in a lake, it's only cold:woohoo: water. just put a wet suit on or a mankeeni if your name is joel
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 07, 2011, 08:49 PM
Captain,

Don't forget to bring a shed load of lids please .... some needed for Thursday and 4 needed for Saturday (I have 2)

:silly: :blink: :woohoo:

Ian
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: John Oh on Sep 08, 2011, 10:00 AM
Quotewhy is everybody after a ba would you put one on if you went for a swim in a lake

It's basic safety kit, lakes people swim in generally aren't under ground and have sun to warm them so will be around 14-15degc at this time of year (still cold), the water in the spar mine I expect will be 10degc or less, not that many people actually swim in them so have no experience of the cold and not everyone will have a wetsuit. You are planning on taking in inflatables so you will be further away from the dry land, most of the spar mine has very steep sides which would be impossible to climb out of and there is a good change of your lamp failing if you fall in.  

Maybe next time you climb the Old Man you should consider leaving your rope at home :sick:

A little safety is not hard to put in place, explaining why someone didn't come home is!

Rant Over.

JohnO
UCET Water Safety Admiral.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 08, 2011, 10:42 AM
[quote="JohnO" post=2350]
JohnO
UCET Water Safety Admiral.[/quote]

I see JohnO has created a self-promotion system within the club. I think this is an excellent idea and, of course, as we know from science;

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction

Therefore, I am reducing my own rank from "Secretary" to "Club Splod"

B)

Ian
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 08, 2011, 03:19 PM
[quote="Ian" post=2351][quote="JohnO" post=2350]

 I am reducing my own rank from "Secretary" to "Club Splod"

B)

Ian[/quote]ye bloody ye
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Ian A on Sep 08, 2011, 03:27 PM
You should be at work not at home surfing the interweb :ohmy:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 08, 2011, 03:29 PM
[quote="JohnO" post=2350]
Quotewhy is everybody after a ba would you put one on if you went for a swim in a lake

It's basic safety kit, lakes people swim in generally aren't under ground and have sun to warm them so will be around 14-15degc at this time of year (still cold), the water in the spar mine I expect will be 10degc or less, not that many people actually swim in them so have no experience of the cold and not everyone will have a wetsuit. You are planning on taking in inflatables so you will be further away from the dry land, most of the spar mine has very steep sides which would be impossible to climb out of and there is a good change of your lamp failing if you fall in.  

Maybe next time you climb the Old Man you should consider leaving your rope at home :sick:

A little safety is not hard to put in place, explaining why someone didn't come home is!

Rant Over.

JohnO
UCET Water Safety Admiral.[/quote]

how big is that horse your on mr owen:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
 is it this big
or this big
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 08, 2011, 03:36 PM
hey johno ive just noticed your sliding scale rank -from commander to admiral , i hope you've got the uniforms to back this ranking up:blink: :silly: :silly: :blink: :blink: :silly:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: John Oh on Sep 08, 2011, 03:41 PM
Oh they look far to dangerous, the Risk Assessment to get on one of those must be massive and as for look up it's A*** well, no thank you.

Here is mine

:kiss:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 08, 2011, 03:43 PM
PRETTY . suits you sir.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: John Oh on Sep 08, 2011, 04:18 PM
[quote="mike leahy" post=2356]hey johno ive just noticed your sliding scale rank -from commander to admiral , i hope you've got the uniforms to back this ranking up:blink: :silly: :silly: :blink: :blink: :silly:[/quote]

Certainly Have :cheer:



How many other work avoidance things can i do today, oh yea time for tea :woohoo:
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Sep 08, 2011, 05:06 PM
[quote="JohnO" post=2359][quote="mike leahy" post=2356]hey johno ive just noticed your sliding scale rank -from commander to admiral , i hope you've got the uniforms to back this ranking up:blink: :silly: :silly: :blink: :blink: :silly:[/quote]

Certainly Have :cheer:



How many other work avoidance things can i do today, oh yea time for tea :woohoo:[/quote]
with me not beeing familiar with admiralty , is that commander or admiral????????? please confirm
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Tim Watts on Sep 09, 2011, 09:36 PM
so, what happened - did anyone drown....or at very least get wet???
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: John Oh on Sep 10, 2011, 06:52 PM
Quotedid anyone drown
No we were all wearing BA's or Arm bands or in a ring or in a boat, Apart from ONE, Now who could that have been? :whistle:

I did a spot of SPAR Snorkelling (crap video to follow) until my fins strap snapped and I ended going around in a circle. :woohoo:

The water is now so low that you can walk most of it to the right, then it drys out completely, Crazy measured it to be distance to the working face to be about 1Km.  (see knowledge bank photos)

To the left the water goes deeper but Guy reported another lower level and an incline.

I think it will continue to drop as the amount is has drop can not be just down to dry conditions.

John.
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: Dylan Roberts on Oct 16, 2011, 12:12 AM
Some videos of this trip:

http://youtu.be/22UrYE9rTZg

http://youtu.be/WO_w2BXU7w0

http://youtu.be/wSSTck1wdjQ

http://youtu.be/F5fsjRSLFKw
Title: Re: Thurs trip 08/09/11
Post by: mike leahy on Oct 16, 2011, 10:37 AM
nice one dylan .
the water level is now just over welly height and still dropping