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Cave and Mine Exploring => Website Issues => Topic started by: Joel Colk on Jun 01, 2011, 11:09 PM

Title: Website slow?
Post by: Joel Colk on Jun 01, 2011, 11:09 PM
Is it just me, or is the website running quite slow at the moment?
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ian A on Jun 02, 2011, 11:12 AM
It's not just you Joel ...

Tim,

Any idea what's going on?

Also ... any news on being able to sort topics into alphabetical order (knowledge bank)?

:ohmy: :unsure: :P :( :side: :kiss: :S :whistle:

Ian
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on Jun 02, 2011, 02:44 PM
hmm. i noticed it was going slow the other day but its going lightning fast now. I'll keep my eye on it over the next few days. Since when have you noticed it going slower?

R.e. the alphabetical issue - they have stated it'll be included in the next release of Kunena, but there is not yet a release date. I'd speculate at another couple of months.

On the plus point i have managed to modify some scripts for the photo uploading system which has ironed out the bugs. Also i've got some more php memory available at the server which means you shouldn't have any more problems with that side of things.So, now you should be able to upload pretty much any sized image and it will sort it out for you without having to rescale etc.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ian A on Jun 02, 2011, 03:07 PM
It's still very slow for me Tim (waiting about 45 secs for a page to load each time)

:unsure:

Ian
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ian A on Jun 02, 2011, 03:13 PM
now it's much faster ... almost normal :) :) :)
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on Jun 02, 2011, 03:58 PM
hmm... dunno why that would be - nothings changed for ages..... might be either your provider (although unlikely if other sites are working ok) or a loading issue on the server. If its proves to be a problem over a prolonged period then i'll get in touch with Hostpapa (Who run our virtual server)
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Joel Colk on Jun 02, 2011, 07:10 PM
I'm still struggling with the site. Getting a 5mb downstream via speedtester.net too.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ian A on Jun 02, 2011, 09:08 PM
Gone REALLY slow - couldn't load the "news page" at all and had to wait 5 mins just for this page to load
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on Jun 03, 2011, 06:45 AM
i'm not experiencing any delays in the north sea - maybe i'm just lucky with the time i'm loading the pages. I'll keep retesting throughout the day.

When would you say that you first noticed long delays. Also, what browser are you using (and what version number?)
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Martin Poole on Jun 09, 2011, 07:50 AM
mozzilla firefox beta 5.0

all other web pages i use are ok my speed at home is 2.5mb and the only site thats slow is this one and its taken me 5 whole minutes of my life to get to this page for a rant :-(
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ian A on Jun 09, 2011, 10:41 AM
Home computer - takes 30 mins (currently) to load home page (Windows 9)

Work computer (Server - SBS2003) won't load at all

Work peripheral terminal (windows XP) works immediately

:blink:
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Les Williams on Jun 09, 2011, 07:10 PM
If its any help (or even if its no help :silly: ) I haven't experienced any slowness.
I am using my HTC phone and it all loads immediately over a broadband WiFi link.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on Jun 10, 2011, 07:01 AM
yes, i've never had any slowness issues here either. I've run every type of test available and its never showing any problems from the server. So for the poeple (3 of you) who are having problems its most likely due to either a problem with your ISP or a problem on your computer preventing it from running the required scripts etc.

All the people with slowness.......please read on.....

Who is your ISP?

Which browser and which version number of that browser are you using?

Make sure your using the latest up to date version of your browser. Try clearing your cookies, all internet temporary files etc etc - google for help if you don't know how to do this for whichever browser you are using.

Also try clearing you JAVA cache as per the instructions here:
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/plugin_cache.xml

Also, while doing the JAVA cache, use the 'update' tab to ensure you are using the latest version.

Turn off your internet hub - i.e. pull out the power plug and leave it off for 5-10mins and then turn it back on.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Les Williams on May 25, 2012, 10:17 AM
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Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on May 25, 2012, 10:35 AM
Hostpapa doing my head in..... and yes Les, i know what you're going to say! Overloaded servers - 99.9% uptime - in their dreams.

I did better running an old pc as a server from home - which i might be going back to soon (for some other applications) in which case I'll probably move the ucet site onto it.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Les Williams on May 25, 2012, 10:52 AM
[quote="TimWatts" post=6628]Hostpapa doing my head in..... and yes Les, i know what you're going to say! Overloaded servers - 99.9% uptime - in their dreams.
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Moi... :whistle:
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ali Wiseman on May 25, 2012, 01:11 PM
[quote="TimWatts" post=6628]Hostpapa doing my head in..... [/quote]

I've had enough issues to give them a wide berth these days.


[quote="TimWatts" post=6628]I did better running an old pc as a server from home - which i might be going back to soon (for some other applications) in which case I'll probably move the ucet site onto it.[/quote]

I might be able to help with this.

I have a spare server kicking around doing nothing (A proper Server, not a random box cobbled together). Dual Opty 250's, 4x1GB ECC (4 spare), LSI 8 channel SATA card in a 4U rack with mostly quiet fans. If you don't mind having it at your place, UCET are welcome to have it to run the site from. I've not bothered with it since I stopped hosting stuff from home.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on May 25, 2012, 05:21 PM
If its doing nothing else and you feel like donating it then perfect. i've got a 8foot high 19"rack and i'll free up 4U in it somewhere.

I've always hosted from home myself in the past but the running costs of a server (electricity) were comparable to paying for Host Papa. What concerns me the most is my Upload speed - being a fraction of my actually achievable 4gb download speed.....

That said i'd rather have a reliable server - if slightly sluggish, rather than suffer the crap we're getting at the moment. Which is rarely fast anyway and all too often grinds to a complete halt.

For the time being i'll have another damn good moan at host papa and see if they can move us to a less busy shared server.

I'd leave them tomorrow except that we've paid for 2 years in order to get a cheap as chips deal and want to get as much value out of the bastards as possible!
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ali Wiseman on May 25, 2012, 07:36 PM
It's really doing nothing. I don't think I've fired it up for a month or two to be honest. My only gripe with it is that you have to boot it off IDE rather tan the SATA card. I'll include a 250GB IDE drive of long-forgotten origin (Read as "I found it lying round in my spares pile, and it appears to work OK, but have no idea where it came from").

We'll have to organise you picking it up from Wrexham at some point, as I'm certainly not dragging it out on a trip, it weighs a bit.

I think the only thing it needs (and I *may* have one spare), is an ATX PSU with an 8pin EPS on it. At the moment, it's using the 250W job out of my 2U, but I'll need that back at some point.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on May 25, 2012, 09:03 PM
i'll have a psu somewhere i'm pretty sure. Plenty of IDE drives for booting from if you need to keep your 'spare'. In fact plenty of PC's and bits generally speaking - lots of 19" rack cases if you ever need any - all 4U.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ali Wiseman on May 25, 2012, 09:36 PM
I'm trying to reduce the amount of "junk" (the Missus's term!) , You can't go offering me more rackmount gear! Much as I would like to fill one of the "cubbyholes" here with a nice 48U rack stuffed full of 48 core beasts and Cisco switches, the other half has insisted that's not going to happen.

4x1GB of Registered ECC PC3200 is fairly cheap now, about a fiver a stick from fleabay if you fancy filling it up, (Though I can't see this Forum using 4GB, I suspect the processors would struggle before the RAM).
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on May 25, 2012, 10:02 PM
yer it'll run fine on a little over a gig to be honest. Nothing all the taxing and not a huge amount of traffic.

Our airing cupboard is know as the 'server room' - full height rack is pretty full. Everything from x10 home automation, pc's for serving cinema projector and various LCD tv's around the house via cat5 KVM extenders, CCTV, PC's for the recording studio - to reduce heat and fan noise etc in the studio itself - etc etc - you'd love it. Obviously its all 100% necessary but the wife doesn't see it like that - she just see's it as an expensive way of heating the house!
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ali Wiseman on May 25, 2012, 11:05 PM
Indeed 100% necessary, :P  and I'll probably have similar one day, I'll have to have a gander at some point.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: John Oh on Oct 19, 2012, 12:59 PM
Is it just me or are other increasingly finding the ucet website unavailable at times?

Surly the club has enough funds to pay for a decent hosting service.

I use webhostinguk.com and I have had very few problems and very good support, they also keep regular  backups  

One option is
1 GB disk space and 10 GB Monthly Bandwidth for £4 per month.

I am not sure how this fits the current UCET profile.

I know Tim is very busy at present, So I can help out if needed.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Ian A on Oct 19, 2012, 01:09 PM
I am experiencing exactly the same John ...

Tim is busy with all sorts of stuff including babies but he and you are the only two people that understand any about the forum or webby stuff.

It would be awesome if you could fix it between you  ;)

Ian
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Les Williams on Oct 19, 2012, 06:19 PM
BCA does web hosting
http://british-caving.org.uk/?page=21
Tim knows this but has paid Host Papa for 3 years or something so is reluctant to move as they will keep the dosh...
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: John Nicholson on Oct 19, 2012, 07:36 PM
I'm sure it is slow, and also it refuses to allow me to upload pictures.
When will we have PM back?
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on Oct 19, 2012, 08:46 PM
les, exactly. but not too long left now. I WONT be renewing with them that for sure.

Sorry - I will pull my finger out asap. next 4 days i am totally totally busy but i WILL tidy things up again eventually. Need a full free day to get things properly sorted again.
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: John Oh on Oct 19, 2012, 08:58 PM
Why wait for it to expiry, just move it now (or when you have some free time :)  when are next at your holiday home?  :ohmy: )
Title: Re: Website slow?
Post by: Tim Watts on Oct 19, 2012, 09:27 PM
to be honest - between now and when i go back to the holiday home (just over a week from now i am mad busy) Being that i'll be out there for two weeks on 'hopefully' quiet night cover i think thats likely to be my best chance at getting some peace to get things done ;-) ;-)

Only that the bastards won't refund us. I guess we can afford to cut our losses. Its been 'ok' since my last major moaning sessions to them but i've noticed heavy server loading again the last few days myself....