Good Morning all & Happy New Year.
I hope everyone enjoyed whatever time they had off over the festive period, back to it now with caving. Thursday;s trip will be Poachers, we then need to create a list of at least 1-2 months worth of trips so any ideas please send them over on Whats App.
DETAILS:
Poacher’s Cave â€" The Thunderdome - Dependent on numbers, could be a trip to the end and back, maybe apush into the lower series. We are looking to see if there has been any changes at all with all the weather lately.
Here you will be able to see (if you spot them all);
• The petrified alligator
• The sediments of time
• The hidden wall crystals of purity
• The triangular passage of antiquity
• The chandelier of destiny
• The boss of doom
Location : Poacher’s Cave
Meet Place : Cilcain Bridge
Meet Time : 6:30pm-6:45pm
Requirements : Wellies, overalls, helmet, lamp. (Spare clothes and towel)
Link to Parking : goo.gl/maps/Y9PjfF7LvWtoL4pr8
Nearest Postcode : CH7 5NJ
You will get wet.
Entrance is via a short electron ladder.
Suitable for novices with some experience
Forum Link - https://www.ucet.org.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=13&id=11752&Itemid=191#48979
Thanks, Kieran
I'll be there!
Happy New year guys. I won't be at poachers, but would be keen to see the Milwr at some point if a trip is getting organised
I'll be along see you Thursday
I would like to go. B)
Can I recommend more Saturday or Sunday Trips?
I work for a living, So does Jay, and weekday caving is impossible for us.
We would greatly appreciate some consideration of this when making plans.
We joined last year and haven't had a single trip with you guys yet, so please keep this in mind when making plans.
Thank You
Steph & Jay
We all work for a living
One weekend either single day or hut stay per month is organised as a club trip but all members are also encouraged to suggest dates / locations that can be added to the trip list, the problem is it's rare that members step forward and provide dates and recommendations for trips.
Trips can also be ran by members themselves and posted to the forum / what's app chat and if an email circular needs to be sent out to reach more people then contact myself or Jon
Suit you sir
Will be there thursday. Is there somewhere on the forum to recommend trips?
Suit you sir
I'll be there
[quote="Lemon88" post=48984]Can I recommend more Saturday or Sunday Trips?
I work for a living, So does Jay, and weekday caving is impossible for us.
We would greatly appreciate some consideration of this when making plans.
We joined last year and haven't had a single trip with you guys yet, so please keep this in mind when making plans.
Thank You
Steph & Jay[/quote]
Sorry you’ve missed out on trips but UCET’s trip day has always been a Thursday evening and always will. Alot of people work around there work patterns and often miss trips. Unfortunately as much as we’d like to accommodate everyone and we do try. Perhaps try and free yourselfs up for some weekend trips that some of our members kindly put on for those who can’t make weekly trips.
Your access officer Steve
Hopefully join you
[quote="jacobm3661" post=48988]Will be there thursday. Is there somewhere on the forum to recommend trips?[/quote]
Anywhere make it known in the pub and on the srt chat. Keep doing it until you get your trip lol
[quote="jacobm3661" post=48988]Will be there thursday. Is there somewhere on the forum to recommend trips?[/quote]
Jacob drop me a message on WhatsApp
I'll be coming along :)
I will be keeping an eye on the river levels this week because of the snow melt, and rain. We may have to resort to a plan B in the same area.
I'll be there also.
[quote="Gaz Stonely" post=49000]I will be keeping an eye on the river levels this week because of the snow melt, and rain. We may have to resort to a plan B in the same area.[/quote]
What's plan B? :)
Unfortunately going to have to pull out of Thursday's trip as I've double booked.
[quote="Oz2099" post=49005][quote="Gaz Stonely" post=49000]I will be keeping an eye on the river levels this week because of the snow melt, and rain. We may have to resort to a plan B in the same area.[/quote]
What's plan B? :)[/quote]
Either Rhyd Alyn or Nadolig.
Could I also remind to bring harness/belt for life lineing on the ladder for poachers. You'll also need tails for Plan B
Gutted can't make this 1 have a review on new job interview.
Maybe revisit 2 weeks Saturday weekend trip
If not flooded. It's going to be well flooded now for a while water levels are very high with snow full
Apologies, I’m not going to be able to make this because of the weather and work.
When you go to poachers, can you please write down the water level observations you make?
Since I found it to be flooded last year, I've been recording data each time I revisit so we can learn whether it is consistently flooding or draining back normally again.
I am just trying to gather data so we can ascertain whether the flooding continues to be a consistent issue, I believe something in the lower series has moved, so if you go to the lower series can you please get some photos?
I am also trying to get the following information, To find out if it is because of the anomalous flood conditions that had been around Cilain at the time.
last time I was there, it had drained even the lower series had drained, so I believe that if something has moved/blocked the lower series from draining, it will continue to flood in set conditions, but I think if it is not flooded then whatever the blockage was must have moved under the sheer pressure of the weight of the water.
This data will help us define and narrow down which conditions make it flood to the roof or whether it is back to draining normally in the lower series.
Much Appreciated
Thank You in Advance
SJ
I'll be there
Should be there.
Afraid I'm not going to make it tonight.
[quote="Lemon88" post=49016]When you go to poachers, can you please write down the water level observations you make?
Since I found it to be flooded last year, I've been recording data each time I revisit so we can learn whether it is consistently flooding or draining back normally again.
I am just trying to gather data so we can ascertain whether the flooding continues to be a consistent issue, I believe something in the lower series has moved, so if you go to the lower series can you please get some photos?
I am also trying to get the following information, To find out if it is because of the anomalous flood conditions that had been around Cilain at the time.
last time I was there, it had drained even the lower series had drained, so I believe that if something has moved/blocked the lower series from draining, it will continue to flood in set conditions, but I think if it is not flooded then whatever the blockage was must have moved under the sheer pressure of the weight of the water.
This data will help us define and narrow down which conditions make it flood to the roof or whether it is back to draining normally in the lower series.
Much Appreciated
Thank You in Advance
SJ[/quote]
Poachers was an active stream way from Dyers adit. We got as far as the far end of Isosceles passage before turning around, there was just enough head room to push on but the water was far to cold without a wet suit. The river levels were reading 0.94m at Rhydymwyn at 7pm last night. On 6/1/25 the water in the River Alyn was reading 1.5m at Rhydymwyn. I'm guessing a lot of this water was still in the system.
A bit more date from trips in 2024
17/3/24, Rhydymwyn level 0.7m, enough head space to get to the boss chamber.
15/5/24, Rhydymwyn level 0.68m, enough head room to get to the boss chamber.
15/9/24 Rhydymwyn level 0.58m, lower series explored, no water coming down the "waterfall".
Did you go through the water
[quote="mike leahy" post=49042]Did you go through the water[/quote]
Went through the isosceles passage to a point where you would have to fully submerg the body. No one had a wetsuit on so we turned around
https://youtube.com/shorts/TK579R0oXqQ?si=K6BP2Xs5J-tSdhgM
Ignore me