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Cave and Mine Exploring => Mines => Topic started by: Ian A on Jan 22, 2020, 07:49 PM

Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Ian A on Jan 22, 2020, 07:49 PM
Got these piccies via FB ... anyone know anything about it?





Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 22, 2020, 08:00 PM
Brilliant adit or possible shaft Must be summit big the size of that portal
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Anthony Britner on Jan 22, 2020, 08:53 PM
Broncoed colliery, found the following stuff online, chances are someone in the club has other info.

QuoteNOTICE    is   hereby    given,    that    the    Partnershipsubsisting   between   us  the   undersigned,    carryingon  business  as Colliers,  at  Broncoed,  in  the  parish  of  Mold,in  the  county  of  Flint, under   the  style  and  title  of  TheBroncoed  Colliery Company, has  this  day  been  dissolved  bymutual  consent, so far  as  respects  the  undersigned,  SamuelWilliamson, William Williamson, and  Edward  Henry Wil-liamson.â€"As witness our  hands this  2nd day  of  June 1851.Sam.   Williamson.          C. Lloyd.Wm.  Williamson.           William   Shepherd.Ediod. H.   Williamson.


QuoteShepherd    William    BRONCOED COLLIERY, MOLD    FL    PROPRIETOR    1856    1856 DIR

QuoteFrom the Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser and Cheshire…15th December 1866

MOLD. THE "GOLIATH" AT BRONCOED COLLIERY.â€"The splendid pumping engine named "Goliath," at this colliery, gave its first stroke on Wednesday last, when the workmen assembled on the bank and hailed the event with shouts of hurrah. We understand that this engine was purchased of a water company in Glasgow, and has been fixed at Broncoed, under the superintendence of Mr Hales, the manager, whose erection and arrangement of the engine and engine-house deserves  the greatest credit. .....(part extract).......
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 22, 2020, 09:36 PM
Nice bit of info I thought it may of been part of the oak pits colliery if anyone has any interest in having a little dig about in that entrance let me know
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Steve on Jan 22, 2020, 09:41 PM
Digging? Who are you and what have you done with loz
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Steve on Jan 22, 2020, 09:42 PM
How far does it go in do you think ?
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 22, 2020, 09:47 PM
I’m only interested in digging summit I know is there an not guessing
I don’t see making my own cave as caving sorry
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Steve on Jan 22, 2020, 09:48 PM
I’m only kidding :)
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 22, 2020, 09:48 PM
If you want a dig there I will happily help plus I have more places that maybe worth a look 3 adits an a few shafts all coal so will mess to be hush hush
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Robin Jones on Jan 22, 2020, 11:56 PM
If it's the one I'm thinking of, It's not a mine.  There are about 30 similar tunnels in the area which were simply built to maintain the flow of water under the railway line which no longer exists:


Not the exact tunnel in question, but one on the same stretch of line


you can see it is back filled from the other side of the railway line
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Anthony Britner on Jan 23, 2020, 08:40 AM
[quote="Sweetie" post=37503]If it's the one I'm thinking of, It's not a mine.  There are about 30 similar tunnels in the area which were simply built to maintain the flow of water under the railway line which no longer exists:

[/quote]

Agree it's more likely to be railway related, there was a branch line to the colliery.

plus the British geological society borehole map shows no shafts near the location indicated on the drawing supplied to Ian.
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 23, 2020, 10:32 AM
No it’s defo a coal miners it’s not under the stretch of old line I will attach a coal board maps to say it’s what it is
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 23, 2020, 10:37 AM
I’ve circled them on the map
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 23, 2020, 10:41 AM
I’ve circled the location of the mine I’ve found an lined the rail track
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 23, 2020, 10:56 AM
The arch is much larger in the photo Ian put up
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Anthony Britner on Jan 23, 2020, 11:10 AM
There are no shafts marked  by the red squiggle on the Ian's map through. And as a colliery  the coal authority  should have it marked as a level  if that's what it is.
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: ilt on Jan 23, 2020, 11:57 AM
The scribble isn't really very helpful as a location and I don't know that area well having only visited it to see if there were any remains of the limekilns and brick kiln.
There is a single shaft marked on Mastermap at 323782, 362203 but that shouldn't be the portal from the photo (which would be recorded as a 'level' not a 'shaft' if the cartographer thought it was a mine-related).
Out of interest this is the only one recorded by the OS after 1901 suggesting that the others were filled by then and it is recorded as disused.

Looking at the public Coal Authority website is also not particularly helpful as the map isn't available at a useful scale nor does it show what IS there, rather it's a record of what HAS BEEN there.

There was also a colliery railway which went into the area circled by Loz but it was out of use by 1869 (the Oak Pits line it joined was a road by that time).


Flintshire Archive has plans and sections of the coal mine from the late 1800's (possibly from around 1868 when one of the Forster family, well known engineering family for several generations, surveyed it). For anyone interested in the mine a trip to the Archive would seem a good starting point.

Shafts recorded by the OS before 1870
324020, 362264
323782, 362203
323898, 362236
323709, 362238
323989, 362267
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 24, 2020, 11:51 AM
Yea it was just summit I’ve seen from the road passing it looks like a mine An I had seen there was a colliery there once apon a time
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 24, 2020, 11:56 AM
What you say is interesting but I’ve been for a walk about that wooded area in the map and you can clearly see shafts all over that area
An yea going to records office is a good idea but I have no idea what to look for or where to look I’m more of a look on maps an go and have a look get out in the fresh air type of person than being a book worm
ILT what you say is really interesting but your delivery is poor there’s no need to be stand offish mate
Title: Anyone know this mine
Post by: Loz on Jan 24, 2020, 03:30 PM
Would it be possible to get the link for the bore hole maps please they sound really helpful in my hunt for stuff to go An look at and have a mooch about