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Title: srt training
Post by: mike leahy on Feb 27, 2019, 05:48 PM
thinking of organising some srt training at holywell leisure centre. probably on a sunday eve ( 5-7.30 ish) put your name down if interested. TA
Title: srt training
Post by: Philip Scott on Feb 27, 2019, 09:56 PM
I'm still shit, but not as shit as I used to be :-D
Title: srt training
Post by: adrian morris on Feb 28, 2019, 08:16 AM
yes, put me down for this, cheers
Title: srt training
Post by: Steven Tate on Feb 28, 2019, 09:26 AM
I am interested just think ,I am not getting a Sunday off for a while
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Feb 28, 2019, 10:56 AM
Sounds good B)
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Feb 28, 2019, 11:56 AM
I'm cool any day apart from Tuesday's
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Feb 28, 2019, 01:00 PM
I'm up for it
Title: srt training
Post by: Anthony Britner on Feb 28, 2019, 01:18 PM
It's a good chance to hang around if you have not done so before or for a while.
Title: srt training
Post by: mick murphy on Feb 28, 2019, 05:19 PM
i should come along to this as the instructor as mike may get someone hung up in the roof if he puts in a rebelay what do you think,Mick
Title: srt training
Post by: mike leahy on Feb 28, 2019, 05:21 PM
[quote="madmicks" post=35517]i should come along to this as the instructor as mike may get someone hung up in the roof if he puts in a rebelay what do you think,Mick[/quote]

i think you'll find BUDGIE is the clubs training offfficer  :S  :S  :S
and not some bloody plastic scouser
Title: srt training
Post by: mick murphy on Feb 28, 2019, 09:40 PM
i know Budgie is the training officer its a pity you did not take up the offer of learning but then its the real scousers who think they know it all and will not be told otherwise, wil they you do not like to give any slack thts why we all get hung on your rigging its about time i gave you some stick its usually, me on the back end, ha ha, MICK
Title: srt training
Post by: Stephen Davies on Mar 03, 2019, 10:09 PM
Interested. Be good practice.
Title: srt training
Post by: Steven Tate on Mar 04, 2019, 06:29 PM
Any way it can be a Monday night?
Title: srt training
Post by: mike leahy on Mar 04, 2019, 08:15 PM
[quote="SDTate" post=35532]Any way it can be a Monday night?[/quote]
I will ask budgie
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 05, 2019, 12:27 AM
I can do from Monday 19th if that helps. Xx
Title: srt training
Post by: Steven Tate on Mar 05, 2019, 01:06 AM
Thank you so muchxx
Title: srt training
Post by: Paul on Mar 05, 2019, 06:25 PM
Interested, I need training
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 06, 2019, 04:22 PM
Is this the start date the 19th?
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 07, 2019, 08:50 PM
If we can all do the 19th there will be 1 before that to get everyone up to speed before the 19th. We will go over donning and some basic rope skills, ie threading your descender making yourself ready for ascending the rope. Xx
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 07, 2019, 10:32 PM
I'm good for the 19th
Title: srt training
Post by: Ian A on Mar 07, 2019, 10:36 PM
If the date(s)/time/places can be finalised - I will shoot another circular around   :whistle:  :whistle:  :whistle:
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 07, 2019, 11:05 PM
Ok so Monday is the 18th lol so can we all still do that xx
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 09, 2019, 06:28 PM
I can
Title: srt training
Post by: Steven Tate on Mar 10, 2019, 10:33 AM
I am inx
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 10, 2019, 10:49 AM
Do we need are own gear? Or can I borrow some? And is there a charge for the course? Thanks
Title: srt training
Post by: Paul on Mar 10, 2019, 11:24 AM
I'm OK for Monday could I borrow some gear please
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 10, 2019, 11:37 AM
We have a number of kits in stores can you make arrangements to get yours 1 soon as we will need to meet before Monday for an hour or so. I can do Friday eve or the weekend xx
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 10, 2019, 01:33 PM
I'm good with that
Title: srt training
Post by: mike leahy on Mar 10, 2019, 04:28 PM
There's usually a£3.00 charge by the sport center but I'm trying to get it freeeeee.
Will keep you posted
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 10, 2019, 04:56 PM
Cheers mike
Title: srt training
Post by: Andrew Farrow on Mar 11, 2019, 09:53 AM
firts off - the UCET basic SRT training = fook awesome

and the foundation skills - are the absolute most important bit - that MUST be taught corretly

and UCET does this brilliantly

now  - this is NOT a critiscism - but [ yeah there is always a but ........ ]

could the club include an intermeditate and an advanced session - for the people who are beyond needing to be drilled on " best practice " to clip into a traverse  and basic safe descent // assent techniques

it seems - to me at least - that the club just ignores people - once the foundational skills are in place - and advancement is ad-hoc " on the job " - development - with no coherent plan or unified method - to get people to the " next level " - with no bad habits , or ommissions

the reason for this post - is that i has done rigging or assistance on several trips - with people i has never met - and if i ask them what thier SRT experience is :

i get back the answer - i has done the UCET training lessons with budgie etc

and its obvious that the ones that paid attention - do everything they were told - correctly - with no fuss

and its the same in other clubs

but - further development - is " all over the place " - with best practice not always followed and no evidence that anyone has properly given any coherent instruction - just ad-hoc

so - could we think about a pair of lessons - to get people to " next level " and beyond - with a clear structured training plan - that puts everyone at the deseried skill set and knowledge


just like the foundation course - turns utter noviced into people capable of ascend // descent a given rope

i stop here  cos its descending to babble

TIA
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 11, 2019, 10:34 AM
Hi Andrew the training did contain a lot more than we do now. I found that there was too much for people to remember and most was forgotten. We always ask people to come back on the basis course to help to teach where I find they learn a lot more, unfortunately we haven't done any for some time. I apologise. We can look at extra training so if you or anyone has any suggestions let me know.
Diolch
Title: srt training
Post by: mike leahy on Mar 11, 2019, 01:23 PM
Just spoke to sports centre.
Booked for 8.00 till 9.00
Starting Monday the 18th.
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 11, 2019, 03:28 PM
Ok can we all be there at 19.00 so we can go over donning up.
Meet up on the balcony xx
Title: srt training
Post by: mike leahy on Mar 11, 2019, 07:04 PM
Can everyone please confirm that you can get their for 7.00 . cheers
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 11, 2019, 07:20 PM
I'll be there for 7pm
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 11, 2019, 07:41 PM
Don't forget you need to get an SRT kit from Boydy
Title: srt training
Post by: Steven Tate on Mar 12, 2019, 10:00 AM
[quote="Budgie " post=35597]We have a number of kits in stores can you make arrangements to get yours 1 soon as we will need to meet before Monday for an hour or so. I can do Friday eve or the weekend xx[/quote] i can not get away from work friday or the weekends. Was hoping to get to the pub on Thursday night but even that's not set in stonex
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 13, 2019, 09:22 AM
Ok will pick 1 up when I go for the rope
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 16, 2019, 02:41 PM
Hi have we all got an SRT kit xx
Title: srt training
Post by: Adam on Mar 16, 2019, 04:46 PM
No was told on Thursday you would be bringing them all for us???
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 16, 2019, 07:13 PM
Been and got we we had in stores today.
Title: srt training
Post by: Stephen Davies on Mar 18, 2019, 12:08 AM
I will do my best to get there but it will not be before 8pm sorry.  Crap hours I'm on don't help!!
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 18, 2019, 07:48 AM
Ok no worries xx
Title: srt training
Post by: adrian morris on Mar 18, 2019, 08:15 AM
I will try and get there for 8.00pm, but might be late.
Title: srt training
Post by: Budgie on Mar 18, 2019, 09:48 PM
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If you can WhatsApp or tex your numbers and names I will send you some vids also whether your happy to be in a WhatsApp group or not diolch Xx