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Cave and Mine Exploring => Trips and Events => Topic started by: Stephen Davies on Feb 16, 2019, 11:18 PM

Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Stephen Davies on Feb 16, 2019, 11:18 PM
Hi folks,

Apologies for late posting this week (been tail chasing).

This weeks trip is to the Alyn Sink hole on the leete path near Devil's gorge within loggerheads country park  

Parking is in Pantymywyn above the leete path. Do not drop to the bridge or you will be walking up to drop down (standard practice for cavers
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Ian A on Feb 17, 2019, 08:19 AM
Alyn sink ?
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Robin Jones on Feb 17, 2019, 08:53 AM
I'll head to Doug's as he needs a few bodies there this week.  :kiss:
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Steven Tate on Feb 17, 2019, 09:51 AM
Trying to get cover,other wise will be working.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: mike leahy on Feb 17, 2019, 10:00 AM
Alyn sink gets my vote but I might not be out. Had a death in the family so will see how it goes
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Stephen Davies on Feb 17, 2019, 10:57 PM
Sorry to hear that the news Mike.

Alyn sink hole and Doug's it is. If I get chance, I will phone the ranger tomorrow (Monday). Be interesting to see the development with the gated sinkhole.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Gregory Collins on Feb 18, 2019, 08:59 AM
I will be able to make it early on Thursday.  On holiday this week.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Stephen Davies on Feb 18, 2019, 01:05 PM
I have spoken to the ranger at loggerheads and he is more than happy for us to have a look and report back. I will arrange key collection on Wednesday with him.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Tim Watts on Feb 18, 2019, 03:59 PM
Guys,

There is a key next to my shed on my front drive.

50m from where you'll be parking.

walk onto my drive, you'll see my front shed. look to the lift hand side and you'll see a T bar with a special socket welded to it. Sitting on the little concrete cap thing next to the two kids sledges.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: mick murphy on Feb 18, 2019, 06:23 PM
thats okay if neddy has not informed the ranger as you are still in the bat season and if you get seen you will lose access so make sure the ranger
has not been informed,mick
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Stephen Davies on Feb 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
[quote="madmicks" post=35419]thats okay if neddy has not informed the ranger as you are still in the bat season and if you get seen you will lose access so make sure the ranger
has not been informed,mick[/quote]

Murph, I have spoken with the ranger at loggerheads and he will be very grateful if we can shed any more light on what is happening  as it will assist him in his role while he figures out the best way of dealing with it for all parties concerned including general public and bats.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: mick murphy on Feb 19, 2019, 03:15 PM
I will come over as soon as i have finished putting the platform in the shaft at Bryn Celyn just the timber to put in will start at 2.0.pm should be done by 4.0pm then i will call over.mick
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Tony Salusbury on Feb 19, 2019, 04:30 PM
I am hoping to be out. Trying to swap shifts and have also requested the day off too.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Tony Salusbury on Feb 20, 2019, 11:02 AM
I'll defo be out tomorrow. Will be going Alyn sink.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Ian A on Feb 20, 2019, 11:33 AM
[quote="WelshSossy" post=35445]I'll defo be out tomorrow. Will be going Alyn sink.[/quote]


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Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Adam on Feb 20, 2019, 06:16 PM
Alyn sink sounds good.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Stephen Davies on Feb 20, 2019, 08:46 PM
IMPORTANT UPDATE ON ALYN SINKHOLE.

I have had a call from the ranger of loggerheads this afternoon and unfortunately he cannot guarantee we will have access to the gated sinkhole as he had to run it past the Bat Conservation group and NRW due to the sensitivity of the area. On Monday, he did not envisige this been any problem as the weather has been mild and we are on the back end of bat season. To enter the gated one, we will need a licence which takes time but the ranger is hopeful he can get an emergency access licence but this cannot be guaranteed.  
 The ranger does apologise for this inconvenience and he is as frustrated by the loopholes as us but it is not worth the risk for him or us by-passing the bat people or NRW.
 Both the ranger and Denbighshire Countryside services/environment dept. are very grateful for our assistance and whilst we may not get access to the gated sinkhole, we have permission to look inside the barriered area of the new sinkhole as it has dropped again slighty since Monday (rangers words) and he is very grateful of any light we can shed on the subject.

Please be patient on this one folks, the ranger is trying his hardest with the relevant groups and parties he needs to deal with.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Robin Jones on Feb 20, 2019, 09:10 PM
[quote="Neddy82" post=35448]IMPORTANT UPDATE ON ALYN SINKHOLE.

I have had a call from the ranger of loggerheads this afternoon and unfortunately he cannot guarantee we will have access to the gated sinkhole as he had to run it past the Bat Conservation group and NRW due to the sensitivity of the area. On Monday, he did not envisige this been any problem as the weather has been mild and we are on the back end of bat season. To enter the gated one, we will need a licence which takes time but the ranger is hopeful he can get an emergency access licence but this cannot be guaranteed.  
 The ranger does apologise for this inconvenience and he is as frustrated by the loopholes as us but it is not worth the risk for him or us by-passing the bat people or NRW.
 Both the ranger and Denbighshire Countryside services/environment dept. are very grateful for our assistance and whilst we may not get access to the gated sinkhole, we have permission to look inside the barriered area of the new sinkhole as it has dropped again slighty since Monday (rangers words) and he is very grateful of any light we can shed on the subject.

Please be patient on this one folks, the ranger is trying his hardest with the relevant groups and parties he needs to deal with.[/quote]

Cheers for the update Steve, and thanks for taking the time to liaise with the ranger.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: mick murphy on Feb 20, 2019, 10:28 PM
i will nip over in the morning and line out the cavern on the surface with yellow line marker paint for grass environmental friendly and should he call
over when i am not there you can tell him there is a 70rt cavern below in the area of the paint.mick
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Anthony Britner on Feb 21, 2019, 07:24 AM
Use rocks.
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Dave Tyson on Feb 21, 2019, 11:33 AM
[quote="madmicks" post=35431]I will come over as soon as i have finished putting the platform in the shaft at Bryn Celyn just the timber to put in will start at 2.0.pm should be done by 4.0pm then i will call over.mick[/quote]
I might slip over to Bryn Celyn at 2pm and meet you.

Dave
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Adam on Feb 21, 2019, 04:27 PM
Alright guys, any update on Alyn sink? Is it on tonight?
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Ian A on Feb 21, 2019, 04:34 PM
Yes it's on ..... There are 5 confirmed and no doubt some who haven't said one way or the other....

 :)
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Adam on Feb 21, 2019, 04:38 PM
Cheers dude B)
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: adrian morris on Feb 21, 2019, 05:02 PM
I will be there
Title: Thursday trip 21st Febuary
Post by: Paul Boyd on Feb 21, 2019, 05:06 PM
Hopefully I will be there and bring rope,electrons and slings